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after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state department obama administration is just not provided the document. we're doing investigation, congress will do an investigation. we deserve to have that information to get to the bottom of it. neil: with all these folks coming out, some going on the record, most off the record, these organizations saying we were trying to warn the administration, is almost as if they feel horribly guilty about what happened but they want to exonerate themselves to say we did everything we could do and we were ignored. is that the gist of it? >> if you had to summarize it, yes.
after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state...
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and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our law enforcement occasions, our investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting it down, for picking up the ball and running with it. but the president of the united states i suspect has just as much influence if not more than two u.s. senators so what is your explanation for the fact that you guys had to jump into this? >> my belief is that this administration is trying to run out the clocking when it comes to benghazi. this is a story that changes by the day. what do we know. we know that before the a i tack in april and june of this year the consulate was attacked twice. we know that the british withdrew their -- closed their consulate a
and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our law enforcement occasions, our investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting...
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have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal about this case. he just wanted to quietly get it moving and he told a friend who went to a congressman from washington state where fredrick humphries is from who went to eric cantor and that's how it got to muller. >> okay, okay. >> he's being incorrectly called a whistle-blower. >> sari, he goes to a congress person, going outside of his agency, about a person who is being accuse -- somebody who is making accusations of being harassed by e-mail. is that important enough hearing from some other woman jealous of her, that tha
have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal...
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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has b
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of...
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back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised questions regarding the role of the white house and the timing of the announcement. >> this is the key question right now in front of everybody. how extraordinary would it be that you have this type of fbi investigation into your cia director and the president is not informed of it? the word is circulating that the president was not aware that only one petraeus came to him, but it really seems to believe that someone in the white house didn't know that the fbi didn't inform the white house in some fashion. >> earlier, we talked to fran townsend who
back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised...
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when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard she and her husband were battling a bank and court because the documents show the red brick house that we have been showing purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million four years later the bank files to foreclose on the kelly's because the bank says they hadn't sent in a mortgage payment since september 2009. the kellkelleys show they are n other lawsuits involving money and the kelley family. >> what about the charity? >> it was called the dr. kelley cancer foundation. it was to conduct research and efforts of term ali ill patients
when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was...
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lou: an investigation by the agency of the justice department, the fbi. is that right? >> they are, and they will stick to that because they know there is not a good and happy story that comes out of this for them. i think we're now going to hear it after the election. lou: john bolton, your thoughts. >> i think the administration's ideology was fundamentally challenged by this terrorist attack if you believe the war on terror is over, al qaeda has been defeated, arab spring brought democracy to the middle east, you cannot even comprehend what happened in benghazi was anything other than a demonstration that got out of control. the fax overwhelm them but they have been successful with the complicity of the mainstream media who did not want to cover the story at all. lou: governor romney did not bring it up in a debate either. but on the mainstream media. i am not in any way inflated responsibilities of a candidate for president with that of the national media. the media is responsible for what they have failed to do. treated by history, governor romney with the opportun
lou: an investigation by the agency of the justice department, the fbi. is that right? >> they are, and they will stick to that because they know there is not a good and happy story that comes out of this for them. i think we're now going to hear it after the election. lou: john bolton, your thoughts. >> i think the administration's ideology was fundamentally challenged by this terrorist attack if you believe the war on terror is over, al qaeda has been defeated, arab spring brought...
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this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this affair, would have used it as blackmail against petraeus to get our biggest secrets, and that's why with the security clearance you are not supposed to compromise yourself in this way. >> let me go to the congressman. so the fbi director had to know. he meets with the president. eric holder had to know, he meets with the president. we are saying a cia director that is involved in a compromising situation that's correct that was not brought to the attention of the president? what if it wasn't? is that not dereliction of duty in is that not incompetence on that part? if the president did know, what doe
this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this...
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you know in the access to the e-mails that the fbi investigation. clearly will be questions and probably an investigation into whether our intelligence community was compromised by this. all indications are that it wasn't. but gene is right this also comes in a political contest which is the growing intensity of the growing investigations into what happened with respect to benghazi. there's so many balls in the air here. it's an awkward time for the cia to have this happen. there's never a nonawkward time but this is a particularly awkward time and for the ard mrgs as well which that's to shuffle the stop staff at the same time they're expected to asking questions from congress. i expect multiple story lines. >> i want to sam rise. law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the fbi is investigating the general's bog fer paula broadwell for improperly trying to access general petraeus's e-mail and potentially accessing classified information. the officials say they do not believe this will result in any criminal charges. they also stressed that gen
you know in the access to the e-mails that the fbi investigation. clearly will be questions and probably an investigation into whether our intelligence community was compromised by this. all indications are that it wasn't. but gene is right this also comes in a political contest which is the growing intensity of the growing investigations into what happened with respect to benghazi. there's so many balls in the air here. it's an awkward time for the cia to have this happen. there's never a...
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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin who is part of the cnn special investigation unit joins us with more on that what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale, anderson. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, dr. scott kelley, were battling a bank in court, because the bank claimed they weren't paying their mortgage. documents show the
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott,...
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but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story that suggests that the police, car 322 was doing surveillance on the compound, two days before this attack, and then you have shawn smith in his last messages that he typed to his gaming message board saying, we are under watch by the police. this is important evidence. it is sit the on the ground of the consulate. it is unbelievable. >> greta: rick, the senator roberts said that the military have asked him about it, veterans. but i don't see -- i mean, i don't see a lot of people talking about it. will this have no impact on the vote in some impact? >> last time i talked about this, i got ripped
but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story...
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and the fbi doesn't get there until weeks after. cnn found the ambassador's diary. why aren't the counter-terrorism folks involved? >> why was a decision made during attack not to send u.s. special operators, aircraft and the like one hour away in sigonella to repel the attacks? i look at this and say this man has failed as commander-in-chief and i hope the american people are going to hire a new one next week. megyn: thank you, colonel. the "wall street journal"'s peggy noonan described the arc of the president. the debate on the president's case for a second term. next. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. megyn: one of the most read items in the "wall street journal" is a peggy noonan article that describes how far obama has fallen. at one point she wri
and the fbi doesn't get there until weeks after. cnn found the ambassador's diary. why aren't the counter-terrorism folks involved? >> why was a decision made during attack not to send u.s. special operators, aircraft and the like one hour away in sigonella to repel the attacks? i look at this and say this man has failed as commander-in-chief and i hope the american people are going to hire a new one next week. megyn: thank you, colonel. the "wall street journal"'s peggy noonan...
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he oversees fbi and knew it's going on. then, they can see he buried it, then, you've got fast and furious on the resume. >> you can bury certain things but only a certainly amount of time. and second terms are not kind to second term residents and barack obama won the election but may have lost the election. >> and so this is the first president held since he graduated if he hadn't had a lot of votes. >> you heard talking points mem yes. >> can i answer it here, bill? >> people agree with you and it's going to affect their votes. >> i think that dennis miller made a lot of sense. i agree more -- traditional america is gone. out of here! >> pretty much. and let's take a look at it this way from a political point of view. we keep hearing america is the center of the country. so i'm not sure it's center of right country. one. two, we keep hearing republicans have a problem with black soldiers and latinos and women, and young people. but far and way their biggest problem, biggest problem with republicans is with republicans. f
he oversees fbi and knew it's going on. then, they can see he buried it, then, you've got fast and furious on the resume. >> you can bury certain things but only a certainly amount of time. and second terms are not kind to second term residents and barack obama won the election but may have lost the election. >> and so this is the first president held since he graduated if he hadn't had a lot of votes. >> you heard talking points mem yes. >> can i answer it here, bill?...
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>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it
>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. >>> thanks for staying with us tonight. the leader of a comp
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a general who has done so much for this nation. i think this showed what kind of a man he was that he did his soul searching, but he handed in his resignation because that's what we're trained to do and people should take a lesson on that. >> joe, good to have you with us on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of lay yufs. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the reelection of our first african-american president. msnbc politica
how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. g to come back from rough economic times. employees are bein
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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candy crowley today. >> it seems it's been going on several months and it appears they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day. that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> petraeus resigned from his post at cia director friday and admitted he had an affair. sources said the affair was with his biographer paula broadwell. >>> for the first time in four years an nfl game ended in a tie. the san francisco 49ers and stv louis rams unable to convert field goals to win the game. final score between the nfc west rivals, 24-24. the last tie was november 16, 2008, between the philadelphia eagles and the cincinnati bengals. >>> those are your headlines this hour. i'm don lemon. keeping you informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. see you at 10:00 p.m. eastern. [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that o
candy crowley today. >> it seems it's been going on several months and it appears they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day. that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> petraeus resigned from his post at cia director friday and admitted he had an affair. sources said the affair was with his biographer paula broadwell. >>> for the first time in four years an nfl game ended in a tie. the san francisco 49ers and stv louis rams unable to...
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remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national intelligence director james clapper told him to do so. joining me now, spencer ackerman, senior writer for "wired" who writes for their national security blog, the danger room, and nbc's richard wolffe. richard, i don't know, i don't know much about waging war. i do know a little bit about living life. and these generals are writing absolutely crazy letters which i don't have time to read to a judge in a custody battle. >> right. >> a woman who has lost custody of her son, and in this country it is not easy for women to lose custody of children in these situati
remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national...
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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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the tip the fbi was acting on involved a rumored affair with his biography, paula broadwell. cnn has not been able to reach her for comment and it's also not clear whether she is the woman whom petraeus admitted having an affair with that led to his resignation. petraeus did not name the woman he was having an affair on. >>> more on general putretraeusd his career from chris lawrence. >> david petraeus sent this letter to the cia staff on friday admitting he had an affair and telling the staff that he had gone to the white house on thursday and asked president obama to accept his resignation. on friday during a phone call, the white house says the president did accept petraeus' resignation, throwing his national security team into flux just days after the election. by the time david petraeus got his first taste of real combat, he was a 50-year-old major general. in 2003, he commanded the 101st airborne during its march on baghdad. it was in iraq that he rhetorically asked a reporter, tell me how this ends, suggesting trouble the u.s. would have there in later years. there he
the tip the fbi was acting on involved a rumored affair with his biography, paula broadwell. cnn has not been able to reach her for comment and it's also not clear whether she is the woman whom petraeus admitted having an affair with that led to his resignation. petraeus did not name the woman he was having an affair on. >>> more on general putretraeusd his career from chris lawrence. >> david petraeus sent this letter to the cia staff on friday admitting he had an affair and...